User talk:Wizardoest/PCs/Monk-Binder CR4 Build

Look into the spellsword from Complete Warrior. It has a lot of flavor and with sime mithril armor you would be pretty rocking. You can do it by warmage 4 / fighter 2 and have a pretty solid frontline mage. Spell progression isn't super but throw in a little eldrich knight and you are good to go. --Askewnotion 03:01, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

While reading through Complete Mage, and I'm starting to think that Ultimate Magus would be cool. Dread Necromancer 1/Wu Jen 4/Ultimate Magus X. (One level of Dread Necromancer avoids the cheese that the class' later levels bring.) Also considering Binder from Tome of Magic.

The Binder is a wonderful class full of flavor. By taking the pact augmentation that adds to hit you will be a pretty solid front line "caster." I was just under the assumption that everyone was against the "Tome" books. Personally, I like the Tome of Magic becasue the spellcasters are a little weaker than normal magic users but have a lot of fun gameplay stuff to add in the mix. I'm a personal fan of Shadow Magic, even though it is super low on the power scale. --Askewnotion 23:59, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Tome of Magic is very different than Tome of Battle. I'm mostly disappointed with Tome of Magic overall. (It could have been WAY better done.) --Robhim 01:28, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

ToM is sort of a step back on the power scale but flavor-wise fits into game worlds better than MoI. Incarnum is more potent and better rounded but they didn't give good thought as to fitting it into other game worlds. --Arz 21:16, 8 November 2008 (UTC)