Talk:Rules/Skills

Only prob i see is the cha skills. Try this instead:

Diplomacy [Diplomacy, Intimidate]

Perform [Perform, Gather Information] AKA Work the crowd

Ledgermain [Sleight of Hand, Escape Artist]

Go out of town for a few days and all goes amok. --Arz 16:05, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I still say an empathy [heal, sense motive] skill set is a good combination since both skills don't come up often enough to be singled out. That, and the nameset also fits well. --Askewnotion 16:19, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Me too ;) --Mqs 17:44, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Ledgermain above. --Randy (Talk) 16:52, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I also. Shall we? --Mqs 17:44, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

The problem with merging Dipl. and Intim. is that they truly are very different. Both are cha-based social skills, but being good at one and the other are pretty much mutually exclusive. I understand, also, your desire for Perform + Gather Information. Randy, how do you feel about that one? Gather Information fits soundly with both. --Mqs 17:44, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Performing is to talking to a crowd, while gathering information is talking with people. I think that it's a better fit with Diplomacy. --Randy (Talk) 17:49, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

A series of people, however, as Mike puts it. I do prefer it with Dipl. --Mqs 17:51, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Diplo-timidate is mostly interpersonal v. group exhortation ala perform-ation. Gather info is not dealing with strictly one person, but more often a series and some small groups. I can safely say I will not be 100% satisfied with all the combos. Heck perform/gather isn't perfect, just closer. --Arz 15:48, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Based on this conversation, might I suggest making a Streetwise skill? Combine Sense Motive and Gather Information?

WIS vs CHA. --Mqs 16:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)