Wild talk:Alterations

I'd like to propose an alternative to Exped. Retreat, because I think the spell is kinda stupid in one specific way: it only effects Land Speed. All of the other spells that affect other movement types give you that movement type as part of their effect. I'd like to propose this modification: when casting Exped. Retreat, you can declare what movement type it's operating on, and it adds +30 to that movement type, if you have that movement type. Basically, the +movement spells are all biased towards people who have only one movement type. --t3knomanser 15:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I would propose a spell named Expeditious Swim that would be identical to Expeditious Retreat except that it would apply only to swim speeds. Usually movement spells are all separate spells.

• Branch to Branch, Druid/Ranger 1, grants brachiation and +10 movement
• Rapid Burrowing, Druid/Ranger 1, +20 burrow speed
• Burrow, Druid/Ranger 2, grants burrow speed of 30 (20 in light armor)
• Cloud Wings, Druid 2, +30 fly speed for 1 hour@CL
• Master Air, Druid 2, grant 90 fly for 1 rnd@CL
• Swim, Druid/Sorc-Wiz 2, grant swim 30

--Randy (Talk) 16:44, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Randy is correct. This effect is typically a separate spell for each. Browse the Spell Compendium, mostly the druid list. It won't be hard to talk me into letting one be added to the duskblade list for you. --Mqs 17:06, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

There's Wings of Water or somesuch. My main issue is that most of the additional ones grant the movement type and then add movement- I could have sworn it was less than Exped. Retreat. I think Water Wings was +20. It just seems silly to have spells granting movement types mixed in with spells that just make you faster, and I figured it didn't hurt to ask. That, and since I only get one lvl. 1 per level, it's a little expensive to get Swimmy Wings and Exped. Retreat. --t3knomanser 18:16, 24 July 2009 (UTC)